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he said to john foster dulles really say you can't fool all the people all the time, but you might as well give it your best shot? [laughter] said victor, at these rates you can't expect real posts. [laughter] so he said, would you read a poem for every issue? every week he said. every issue is not really every week because the nation publishes only every other week in the summer, even though the downtrodden are pressed every day of the year. [laughter] i said how much rethinking of pain for the column? he said he would give me $100, even though i palm is quite a bit shorter than a column. i didn't think it was much money and then i looked up how much to poet scat america? it turns out they are paid by the line normally. those of you who are poets have experience with this. the highest payer at the time i may send that holds for today is "the new yorker" and had to say, which was paying $10 a line. so if you do the math come you can see why there's not a huge crowd in front of the poetry booth at the career defeo. [laughter] i was getting $100 a poem no matter how long the palm was, s
he said to john foster dulles really say you can't fool all the people all the time, but you might as well give it your best shot? [laughter] said victor, at these rates you can't expect real posts. [laughter] so he said, would you read a poem for every issue? every week he said. every issue is not really every week because the nation publishes only every other week in the summer, even though the downtrodden are pressed every day of the year. [laughter] i said how much rethinking of pain for...
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, and he pulls back a curtain, and behind the curtain is this giant bust of john foster dulles. that bust stands in the middle of this big airport. i went to see it while i was writing this book. i couldn't find it. i started asking the security guards, where's the big bust of dulles? nobody had ever even heard of it. it was a long process. finally, thanks to the washington airport authority, i was able to discover that the bus had been taken away from its place in the middle of the airport, and it is now in a closed conference room opposite baggage claim number three. i find this a wonderful metaphor brothers --dulles for how the dulles brothers, who at one time had exercised earth shattering power and were able to make and break governments, have now been effectively forgotten and airbrushed out of our entire history. >> with john foster heading state and alan at eia, the overt brothers led both and covert operations for a good portion of the cold war. find out what the ramifications can still be felt some 60 years kinzer, sunday night at 8:00 on c-span's "q&a." next former fl
, and he pulls back a curtain, and behind the curtain is this giant bust of john foster dulles. that bust stands in the middle of this big airport. i went to see it while i was writing this book. i couldn't find it. i started asking the security guards, where's the big bust of dulles? nobody had ever even heard of it. it was a long process. finally, thanks to the washington airport authority, i was able to discover that the bus had been taken away from its place in the middle of the airport,...
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he inherited the covert wars from john foster dulles and others during that time. i understand kennedy wanted to pull out of vietnam under his national security memorandum. where it is confusing to the public is that jack kennedy politically have to keep the company line about not being soft on communism and convince the public and powers to be that he would defend vietnam. more importantly, he absolutely wanted to pull out. he was not ambiguous. he wanted to keep american troops out of vietnam. could you please comment on the? thank you. guest: i tend to agree with the thrust of your argument. there is some evidence in september of 1963, not just memos but also interviews he gave, that made it clear we were not ready for a war in vietnam. in the memos, there is compelling evidence to say kennedy would have kept us out. 1964 would be an election year. i read a new document about kennedy wanting the conventions in color because he thought he would look better in color and the republicans. in the weeks before his death, he was gaining for the 1964 campaign. he would
he inherited the covert wars from john foster dulles and others during that time. i understand kennedy wanted to pull out of vietnam under his national security memorandum. where it is confusing to the public is that jack kennedy politically have to keep the company line about not being soft on communism and convince the public and powers to be that he would defend vietnam. more importantly, he absolutely wanted to pull out. he was not ambiguous. he wanted to keep american troops out of...
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well, intel 58 there was no chance because eisenhower's own secretary of state, john foster dulles, was against any reconciliation. and so hard-liners' surrounded eisenhower. eisenhower operated on the basis of a group consensus more less. every earlier attempt at some kind of reconciliation was vetoed. a total of this because kennedy came into office soon after, said he wanted to negotiate with the soviet union. nothing like that happened. and this teaches us something. within a few weeks one mr. richard bissell came to whisper in john kennedy's year. we have a great plan. we have a wonderful idea. for going to invade cuba. but, of course, it will be cuban exiles, not us. and we have strong reason to believe that as soon as they land on the beach at the bay of pigs there will be an uprising internally, maybe castro will even be dead by then had an assassin's hand and we will be able to retake cuba. it kennedy felt uneasy about it to say the least . in no way that eisenhower had before, but like eisenhower he went ahead with the cia plan. perhaps as a hallmark of his inexperience he wan
well, intel 58 there was no chance because eisenhower's own secretary of state, john foster dulles, was against any reconciliation. and so hard-liners' surrounded eisenhower. eisenhower operated on the basis of a group consensus more less. every earlier attempt at some kind of reconciliation was vetoed. a total of this because kennedy came into office soon after, said he wanted to negotiate with the soviet union. nothing like that happened. and this teaches us something. within a few weeks one...
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until 58, there was no chance because eisenhower's own secretary of state, john foster dulles was against any reconciliation. hard-liners surrounding eisenhower and eisenhower operated on the basis of group consensus more or less. any earlier attempt at reconciliation was vetoed. i tell all of this because kennedy came into this soon after, said he wanted to negotiate with the soviet union but nothing like that happened. this teaches us something also. within a few weeks, mr. richard bissell came to whisper in john kennedy's year, we have a great plan. we have a wonderful idea. we are going to invade cuba. .. overt military support. this appears cia operation. and it was a disaster, to sell released. this in as the ships landed at the bay of pigs, all of the exiles were shot, killed, or captured. and what is stunning in my mind instead that moment khrushchev sent an urgent message to kennedy through back channels, mr. president, your government is engaged in a tyrannical attack on cuba, completely outside of international norms. this must end immediately. and kennedy wrote back, surely on
until 58, there was no chance because eisenhower's own secretary of state, john foster dulles was against any reconciliation. hard-liners surrounding eisenhower and eisenhower operated on the basis of group consensus more or less. any earlier attempt at reconciliation was vetoed. i tell all of this because kennedy came into this soon after, said he wanted to negotiate with the soviet union but nothing like that happened. this teaches us something also. within a few weeks, mr. richard bissell...
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eisenhower sent all three raised in 1957 after nixon became close to john foster dulles after eisenhower's heart attack and he suggested that nixon should visit when the gold coast got its independence. so that's what eisenhower did to try to get mix enough to speed. ki said they don't want someone that is just going to bang a gavel in the senate. >> so there are people who argue that there's the experience of losing such a close election to john f. kennedy in 1960 that the was the trauma. you are laying the foundation for an argument -- no camano. >> he was a father figure and he couldn't please his father figure. >> i'm not going to go into the psychoanalysis. >> everyone else was starting with it. >> i don't think richard nixon appointed himself in the bathroom. >> no, no. it's a wonderful line we thought he was under the influence of cheney but he was under freud i think the 1960 election was dramatic all kind of levels. one, nixon was always regarded kennedy as a friend. he liked kennedy. one of the things i found after nixon's campaign bus but douglas -- campaign with the douglas he
eisenhower sent all three raised in 1957 after nixon became close to john foster dulles after eisenhower's heart attack and he suggested that nixon should visit when the gold coast got its independence. so that's what eisenhower did to try to get mix enough to speed. ki said they don't want someone that is just going to bang a gavel in the senate. >> so there are people who argue that there's the experience of losing such a close election to john f. kennedy in 1960 that the was the...
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president eisenhower had a lot f discussions with john fostere dulles, secretary of state about the way the united states was ws seen around the world because of the racism going on, that people hear about and read about. r and the fact that they seem to be a lot of episodes that keptea happening, whether it was lunche named orth discrimination. the idea was he was going to ask congress to set a pace of the rights commission, which would put that on top of the table appeared and told by some at the meeting that he slammed the table and we're going to put the table.n top of the commissions as we know, o sometimes fed up because there'g tough problem and people don't want to do anything aboutle it.. they do a report and it goes away. this commission was supposed that the facts on top of the table and thenp its future woud depend what it found a come howt aggressive it was than what thet president.s >> host: at this point is a temporarya commission? >> guest: 18 the year before the little rock crisis. there's all kinds of ferment going on in the country andthe eisenhower was to defuse part
president eisenhower had a lot f discussions with john fostere dulles, secretary of state about the way the united states was ws seen around the world because of the racism going on, that people hear about and read about. r and the fact that they seem to be a lot of episodes that keptea happening, whether it was lunche named orth discrimination. the idea was he was going to ask congress to set a pace of the rights commission, which would put that on top of the table appeared and told by some at...
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john foster dulles created the country free. the vietnamese wanted to live together. when people want to live together you cannot stop them. want to live together you cannot make them. we control the rest of the way the people want to live. >> they were all falling apart. >> was the dictator died they all ran off and killed each other. we stopped ethnic cleansing eventually. the point of a bayonet never does it. >> they told the secretary of state, he said when i die there will be no yugoslavia. he was right. he was holding them together with an iron fist. >> some of the students at george mason university. >> george estrada has our next question. >> you earlier mentioned about not compromising our principles. thet now with pakistan and taliban in that whole situation in afghanistan, there are stock that we might negotiate with of the taliban. when the compromise some of our principles? given the circumstances that we are now involved, should we consider that compromising our principles and sacrificing other people would put us in a bad situation? >> i do not want to
john foster dulles created the country free. the vietnamese wanted to live together. when people want to live together you cannot stop them. want to live together you cannot make them. we control the rest of the way the people want to live. >> they were all falling apart. >> was the dictator died they all ran off and killed each other. we stopped ethnic cleansing eventually. the point of a bayonet never does it. >> they told the secretary of state, he said when i die there...
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foster dulles, his secretary of state. be so it's an interesting book, but i actually think he disproves his own thesis, which is kind of fun when you think about it. another book real important to he because i actually served in the senate in the years covered by "the last great senate," which a number of senators during what he thinks is a golden age in the senate in the '60s and '70s and some of the '8. characters like ted kennedy and howard baker and jacob javits t and ed muskie and robert c. byrd who got things done, who reached across the aisle, who were willing to break with their own party orthodoxy. kind of bemoaning we don't do that anymore very much, and he documents how much got done with that spirit of collaboration and compromise. great read. 8381 is a fascinating account of history in which he posits that the notions of christian orthodoxy really were composed not by church leaders, but by leaders of the state where the state directly intervened in convening councils of bush ops and in-- bishops and insisted
foster dulles, his secretary of state. be so it's an interesting book, but i actually think he disproves his own thesis, which is kind of fun when you think about it. another book real important to he because i actually served in the senate in the years covered by "the last great senate," which a number of senators during what he thinks is a golden age in the senate in the '60s and '70s and some of the '8. characters like ted kennedy and howard baker and jacob javits t and ed muskie...
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general michael gasol and many other generals, american diplomats going back to john foster dulles, and they believed pakistan officials. america's problem. pakistan's problem. and why is pakistan a problem? here is the reason. a country that was created with very little prior discussion in the matter. people forget. in egypt for 5,000 years. several centuries, millennium. twenty-one to 66 years old, so therefore it has essentially a lot more than it has actual challenges. i understand that the pakistan is concerned about india, but as a pakistan and like a history. i know that the american relationship with history is very unusual. the only country in the world where some be says that history, he means that development. [laughter] -- important to understand. it has not been dispensable. let's be real about that. afghanistan is too weak and too poor. so most of the problems that pakistan sees itself and is a psychological rather than real. the real problems are we have amelie 180 million people, to london to million according to this morning's estimates based on the population growth. h
general michael gasol and many other generals, american diplomats going back to john foster dulles, and they believed pakistan officials. america's problem. pakistan's problem. and why is pakistan a problem? here is the reason. a country that was created with very little prior discussion in the matter. people forget. in egypt for 5,000 years. several centuries, millennium. twenty-one to 66 years old, so therefore it has essentially a lot more than it has actual challenges. i understand that the...
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i think it is interesting, and i should note that in the eisenhower administration, when john foster dulles, the secretary of state, wanted to go into help the french at the time and eisenhower had some of the senate leaders over there, lyndon johnson strenuously opposed the united states going in at that point in time. and eisenhower did not. we went in modestly with advisers. we put more advisers in with kennedy. why did johnson do it? i think the reasons are complicated. but i think, one there was a genuine belief. he waited a long time. he clearly was skeptical going all the way into mid-1965. all thfs advisers urged him to do it. there was a senate that southeast asia would fuel the communists, and i also think mixed in was the fear if he lost it, all those domestic programs he would not be able to get passed. remember, the republicans at that point in time and many southern democrats were very anti-communist, very suspicious of the liberal wing of the democratic party as being soft on communism. and he feared that that would erode his power. and the senate, you had asked what k
i think it is interesting, and i should note that in the eisenhower administration, when john foster dulles, the secretary of state, wanted to go into help the french at the time and eisenhower had some of the senate leaders over there, lyndon johnson strenuously opposed the united states going in at that point in time. and eisenhower did not. we went in modestly with advisers. we put more advisers in with kennedy. why did johnson do it? i think the reasons are complicated. but i think, one...
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foster fullless, nudged him -- dulles, nudged him. jesus christ, we forgot the prayer, ike would exclaim. [laughter] ike's experience with war, with sending thousands of young men to their deaths and ordering the fire bombing of cities made him want to avoid any war. of there was a lot of talk in his time and since of fighting limitedded wars -- limbed wars, of gradual response, of surgical response. ike wasn't having any of that that. he was an all-or-nothing man. his central insight from reading history of war and his own experience is that war is a mutating monster, that small, short wars have a way of turning into big, long wars and that politicians and statesmen who think they can control war are kidding themselves. at the same time, ike was no pacifist. he believed that soviet communism was expansionist, and it was easy to see why just by looking at the map, and that you had to stand up to communists. but the way to do that was not by fighting smaller, limited brush fire wars, but by threatening to go all the way by what they ca
foster fullless, nudged him -- dulles, nudged him. jesus christ, we forgot the prayer, ike would exclaim. [laughter] ike's experience with war, with sending thousands of young men to their deaths and ordering the fire bombing of cities made him want to avoid any war. of there was a lot of talk in his time and since of fighting limitedded wars -- limbed wars, of gradual response, of surgical response. ike wasn't having any of that that. he was an all-or-nothing man. his central insight from...